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Team Fortress Classic Montag, den 9.April 2001 um 02:21:16 Pfannkuchen
ETFCL Niederlage gegen Tj [ 51 Kommentare ]
Positiv formuliert würd ich sagen, Tj hat cleverer gespielt als wir und mit etwas Glück gewonnen. Negativ würd ich sagen, das wir nun wohl ein grosses Vorbild weniger haben, und wohl bald keinen Bock mehr auf internationale Spiele! :(

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Es gibt bisher 51 Kommentare zu dieser News!

Dienstag, den 10.April 2001 um 09:40:12  
Craig     
Habe gehört so ne nette nummer wie PC die jungs :)
Wir hatten ja auch gerade mal das vergnügen mit PC

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Dienstag, den 10.April 2001 um 09:47:52  
Pfannkuchen     
Jo, und in einer anschließenden Diskussion nach dem Spiel haben sie uns zu verstehen gegeben, daß International nunmal so gespielt wird. Damit reduziert TFC komplett auf ein Golden Cap Match, und wir sind momentan echt am überlegen ob wir uns das weiter antun werden.

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Dienstag, den 10.April 2001 um 09:48:43  
esko paskapää  
hmph why is your site in german, nobody understands it

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Dienstag, den 10.April 2001 um 11:17:02  
[S@W]Drizzt     
Simply easy, while getting experiences like yesterday i don t want to add a feature like a second language. I think i don t want go on join leagues where are HW on bridges in middle of the map to keep an 10 : 10 on openfire and only one Medic is trying to do his offense job. So i am really tired of programming for ppl who playing that way. I really thought TJ were a nice and skillfull clan, maybe they are, but they didn t showed us. They showed us how to play to win a way, we don t like. I am a little bit disapointed to get that experience vs a clan like TJ ! Sorry,

Drizzt

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Dienstag, den 10.April 2001 um 13:06:01  
[S@W]Cornucopia  
Wahh jungs das sagt aber doch nur eins. Die dummen TJs hatten schiss doch noch zu losen. d.H ihr habt denen Angst gemacht hrhr. Also Kopf hoch und weiter.

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Dienstag, den 10.April 2001 um 23:18:54  
freemem     
well first of all, from your longer report, you fellas didnt idle untill our flag returned, and oud team missed one player and one offence player was lagging like monkey, second of all, at no place there was no 6 player defence, 5 defencive players ( lagging player is not defencive player if u dont see him at your flagroom all the time, check pings on your demos).

I understand now that u whine, but keep the facts, ok ?

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Dienstag, den 10.April 2001 um 23:30:45  
cabby     
Id like to point out that we pulled the game to tie two (2) minutes before the round ended. You had whole 28 mins before that to do your tricks and show us lamers how to win.

It is funny to see how pissed you guys are because we settled the score to our favor so late in the match and that your tactics didnt work out. Do you think that we would have shouted your butts lamers if you had played as you see fit? We have seen dozens of clans like yours that keep on whining during the game and after loss. Respect your opponent ffs and play the game when you still have time - not when the match is over.

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Dienstag, den 10.April 2001 um 23:48:34  
Flexy     
wie ich doch die Internationalität liebe ... :P
Konzentriert euch lieber wieder auf die deutschen Ligen (und nächste Saison auch den Cup :P), da habt ihr wenigsten (fast immer) Fun :)

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 00:29:52  
[S@W]Drizzt     
TJs : Telling NOW such a nonsense shows me that you know you were lame. Cabby you said to us u were... so why discuss now ? and about the 2 minutes lol.... you played all the time to get an lame win. whe we were capping, suddenly battery was in offense too.... after your cap NOONE reached our base. you had two HW Guys, one on the bridge... oh yes... but you are TJ and not lame huh ? Forget the game, but i hope DW will do that so often as possible with you again and again. You are not that big clan i ever thought. You are big bugger, not less, not more. Now show that you accept your lameness and play with your finnish friends and watch Formula 1 where a gentleman of Finnland is able to lose. These are my last words for such a lameness, but be aware if we meet again, i will put out all lameness what is possible. Have fun playing your game, i d prefer TFC.
Drizzt

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 02:51:57  
[JaKo|NiCe]     
[zitat/on]play with your finnish friends and watch Formula 1 where a gentleman of Finnland is able to lose[zitat/off]

HUGE LOOOL :)

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 09:58:05  
cabby     
Drizzt, what part excatly was nonsense? We played on your server, check the log and see in which part of the game did we get our cap...and are you now sayin that we should ask our opinion if we want to put one of our defence players to help offence in capping? You sound so damn dumb that Im almost laughing my ass of right now. We usually keep quiet when someone like you blame others of your own way of playing the game. If we had a "gay def" at the bridge, why didnt you use pipe to get in our base? No wonder you guys got beaten so badly in WW2, because you have absolutely no idea of tactics whatsoever. You probably whine now that allied used lame tactics when they used more men in offence than you had in defence. And if you start screwing around with us prepare to get some to yourself too.

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 10:57:07  
sambo     
BUHAHAHAH

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 11:06:59  
hehho  
0mistus :)

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 11:08:24  
mysse  
not our fault that u dont know how to play this game s@w. Tj Pwnz j00

BIND K +getskill

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 11:28:53  
keke  
jea, you would have won if u would have played better than Tj...perhaps..

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 11:30:57  
keke  
ww2 rocked :P

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 11:38:24  
Pfannkuchen     
@Freeman
<i>"you fellas didnt idle untill our flag returned"</i>
Thats not true, we idled a few seconds after the drop. Consult your Demos please.

<i>"at no place there was no 6 player defence"</i>
Freeman, you are Defense Player, and i believe you that u didnt order any support from Offense. But that time we moved your flag, only one fellow showed up in our Base. Ask your Offense what they did that time. Cabby himself statet to me in irc: "if i see our defense in trouble, im helping out a bit.". That was the time when Nuker told in Public Chat "It becomes boring in red Base". Do you remember?

<i>"but keep the facts, ok ?"</i>
I did, sad as it is.

@Drizzt
I understand your dissappointment, but there is no reason to personal and Mika Hakkinen has nothing to with tfc (as far as i know =:).

Btw. no reason to insult each other. (After the match i had a good chat with cabby, and even we did not agree about the match, we did not insult echother in any way). But please dont say we whined cause we lost. But we have absolutely no Problem in loosing, go and ask BC or SHS who made a grate Game with us.
So again, we dont complain about our loss, we would complained the same if we had won the game. (And that would not have been clear, you have great offense and defense, maybe the game would be a much higher victory for you).
I accept your style as a kind of tactics, but it makes me sad because it reduces tfc to a kind of golden cap game.

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 12:12:57  
[S@W]Drizzt     
Die spinnen die Finnen und was sich reimt, das ist gut.

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 12:25:06  
cabby     
Pfanny, I would like to clarify that we didnt request to drop your player. ETFCL rules dont require it and if it would have been the other way around, we had not done the same. If our player drops its our problem and we deal with is as we see best. You are true when saying that defence didnt ask for our help. They didnt. When I saw Vermin drop out, it was my own choice to choose the Soldier and weaken up your offence during that time. I dont have to ask permission for that from defence, from you or anybody else. If your defence had spare time to play cards in defence, why didnt you ask them to help your offence? That is the main reason why we keep saying that adopting to enemy game play is important. Not every clan play like you or the clans you have had "fun" with - and Im sad for the fact that you havent figured it out until now. If you would only understand this small point, you hadnt started to call us lame in the first place - and like I said to Drizzt, if you go personal I will personally do the same, but we werent the ones who started it.

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 13:20:42  
[pG]PhiberCool     
naja whatever international liegen sind halt nunmal kein Kindergeburtstag, verloren ist verloren und gewonnen ist gewonnen.

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 13:31:13  
[S@W]Drizzt     
i did not gone personally, i just called your team lame, you explained, you learned it from DW but on your page you are whining about DW beeing that hard and playing a full defense like you did. It s a regular tactic. But its even a regular tactic at soccer to make tactical fouls. ok you get a penalty for it, but play without two keepers. I see you dont want to play a nice game, i dont want go on play nice games versus such lame tactics using clans. I really thought TJ would be european top clan and beeing a strenghtfull opponent. We counted with a high loss, cause we arent on our full strengh these days. And such a result shows me a win for us not a loss. In ETFCL it is a loss for us, but the facts, that clans using these tactics to win the ETFCL (and you said most of the top clans are doing that) says me, that winning ETFCL is only saying that the winner are the best fastcappers and then defending like hell. I am sad, that you play so, cause your team is skilled enough to win a match without a hwguy on the bridge, a defmedic running after the opponents offense and a defspy who is cutting the back of the offense. Believe in your defense team. I bet you would beat DW high without doing anything to increase your defense while the match is running.

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 13:34:45  
[S@W]Drizzt     
Phiber: Das ist sicherlich richtig, und ich glaube für uns ist es trotzdem ein Win, weil wir mit einer viel höheren Niederlage gerechnet hatten. Aber ich erinnere dich gerne das nächste mal daran, wenn Du einen HW Guy auf der Brücke beschimpfst. Ich habe mit dem ergebnis überhaupt kein Problem. Und schon garnicht, nachdem ich die 2. Halbzeit gesehen habe. Aber ich persönlich werde wenn es nötig ist nun auch richtig lame spielen, scheinbar ist es das was die Leute wollen, Deathmatch und nicht Flaggen klauen :)
Vielleicht sollten wir Nuker auf die Brücke stellen..... der wäre sicher froh *duck vor Nuker und wegrenn*
Drizzt

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 13:38:12  
[pG]PhiberCool  
hehe :))

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 13:52:06  
[S@W]NuKeR     
hrhrhrhr ;-)

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 15:03:08  
cabby     
DW was far superior against us in our last match. Did we call them lame in our match report? No. I wrote the report a bit on the sarcastic side, but that was no way meant to insult their way of playing the game. I said they played hard and the result tells that also played better. Why in the name of god do you join a league if you have no will to win your matches? I have asked you several question, why didnt you change your gameplay if you saw us using "lame" tactics? And I told you to check those fukken logs. When did we get our cap in openfire?! That is approx. two minutes before the round ended. You make it sound like that all we did during the round was defending. How did we manage to cap your flag if we defended all the time, please tell me that? Do you think we are so dumb that in a position like that we let you offence go to our base untouched. Think again...

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 17:19:25  
HattiZ  
LOL :>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GET A LIFE!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

PS : http://www.hattiz.com

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 17:29:25  
HattiZ  
That message is for Team "whine" S@W

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 18:09:44  
alienat0r/mc     
smoke weed and stfu :D

@those cewl screamers (we`ve won the ww2):

you don`t have anything to do with the win so why don`t you all stfu wih your fucking áll germans are na*is...remember what people in england destroyed the wc2000 in france?Hooligans and ? ...

and i dunno if finland took part in ww2 ... what about history in skewl ,i think you understood nothing?
_________________________________
What about a rematch where you,s@w,use the tactics from tj, i don`t wanna know what they`re feeling during the war

gg s@w
fo tj

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 18:11:07  
..hmm     
no formatted text :)

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 18:48:54  
cabby     
alienator, you just keep smoking that weed and participate to a few history lessons - you might learn something. But I remind you a bit. Yes, Finland took part in ww2... we chased your butts while you (somebody might call it lame) burned everything in Lapland on your way to Norway. As far as I know you smoked something else too during the war, and that sure wasnt weed.

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 19:04:24  
[S@W]Drizzt     
hmm, so why someone made a mistake all germans are nazis and idiots ? nice... that is underlinieing character. If we would all be nazis we had not played you but we had enough parols to insult you. And if you has had enough history lessons you would know that the leader was not a germa butt you were hunting for. And now stop that rassism other wise i know enough hard words i dont really mean. ww2 was stupid enough, we dont need any recalls. And if you would like to flame a little bit more about ww2 go to rock2 and take a breath.
ww2 hasnt got any fine properties like TFC. You won the game you showed us howto play in ETFCL. We lost and i am sure i would not play another game without lameness from my site. Lameness was that game yesterday, but you are right if you say it is a tactic. it is. so you are right and a win moren on your side.
Have fun playing the rest of ETFCL.

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 19:11:16  
Pfannkuchen     
Why do you permanently mention ww2? It wasnt my War, and neither was yours. So ka.

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 19:11:54  
[S@W]Beaker  
Cabby : bringing up WW2 to compare it with TFC just shows, that someone is mentally disturbed. For us TFC is a hobby and no real war.

you can be proud btw. that there is a tern called finlandization .. MUHAHAHA

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 19:23:23  
cabby     
Ok this is my last post, because you guys are too good in messing what Im trying to say. Drizzt, did I say something about you guys being nazis? Did I say ww2 was your fault? When someone like alienator talks about the war that way, somebody needs to give him a bit more information. Maybe Im wrong person to do that...this whole thing is getting out of subject. Veni, vidi, vici....

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 20:49:03  
[MF-T]Loser     
ey ich kann kein Englisch also Deutsch oder heisst eure Seite jetz www.saw-clan.com!:P

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 22:42:41  
[S@W]Zirkon     
Finnen... hmmm... das sind doch die Junx die mir im IRC immer meinen Nick geklaut haben? Ich wette das ist eine internationale Verschwörung...

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Mittwoch, den 11.April 2001 um 22:47:13  
[r@ts]Falkone  
Jo jungs, mann muss sich wohl mit zunehmender lamness in TFC abfinden. entweder man hört auf, oder reagiert auf die speziellen clans mit gleichen mitteln. ich schwanke z.z. noch, aber da ich TFC zu genial finde, und nur ein kleiner prozentsatz von ca.15% (aber leider stark steigend!!!) lame spielt, mache ich weiter :)
macht im nächsten match einfach eine backtrackende fulloff und wenn ihr gecappt habt, macht eine wunderbare fulldef :) die stricher haben es nicht anders verdient :)
Es gibt aber auch geile internationale matches. spielt mal gegen MsA oder BAD. die matches die wir mit denen hatten waren genial!!!

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Donnerstag, den 12.April 2001 um 01:06:17  
[S@W]Drizzt     
@ Cabby : You did not said it, but you were near it when you say "hunting our butts". I believe you are not old enough to kicked my grandpa s butt. And i hope it was only the reation of that posting of.... oeeh Alienator. So we keep : TFC is a game without any rules and every team choose their way to try to win. I think yours is not nice, and indirectlyyou said it.... but ok, we played the match, you won. The half i played was nice but imo too many tactical actions to keep only on a draw on the second half. Maybe it is better to end the discussion here before someone posts a message we really dont like about ww 2nd.
If you want to answer again or u are interestet in clearing the problems mail me or message me in quakenet. ( Drizzt97 <-- is the name i am using if i am avaible. )
Cu and good luck going on in ETFCL season.

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Donnerstag, den 12.April 2001 um 14:49:23  
unnamed     
Just to remember you guys from Tj, and all here who brought the topic WW2 in here ...
in WW2 Finland supportted Germany with supply by the northsea (thats one major reason why germany took the route over netherlands to get to france) ...
so better both stop this damn topic and stop bitchin each other coz this in here makes a joke of both, german and international TFC-Scene ...

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Donnerstag, den 12.April 2001 um 15:10:12  
Pfannkuchen     
Please stop posting now. Tj did excuse for this ww2 postings, and we are looking forward to arrange a friendly to normalize the relations between our clans and to remind all involved and enganged players, thats just a game and not a wor(l)d war.

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Donnerstag, den 12.April 2001 um 18:30:35  
Mikka     
Erstmal nachdenken ..... und noch ein bisserl ... ein klein wenig noch nachdenken. Okay hab mich wieder beruhigt und musste gar nicht flamen :=) Jetzt erstmal 18-20 Bier verhaften und dann klappts auch mitm nachbar wieder ;)

*relaxed*Mikka

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Donnerstag, den 12.April 2001 um 18:42:57  
HellkeepeR     
Lernt mal, schlechte Spiele, dumme Bemerkungen und Flames einfach zu ignorieren, bzw. bei Spielen abzuhaken. Hat doch keiner was davon, sich hinterher zu beleidigen, ändert am Spiel überhaupt nichts.

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Donnerstag, den 12.April 2001 um 18:54:36  
Pfannkuchen     
abgehakt! =:)

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Donnerstag, den 12.April 2001 um 19:55:57  
alienat0r/mc     
ok discussion over ;) but :
1. i am not a member of s@w
2. i only wrote my opinion to the comment above : ww2 rocked

my last statement:
i didn`t mean you don`t take part in ww2 ,what i mean is you weren`t the only one,at all it were the alliied forces,and at all i hope you are glad that we didn`t win ww2,btw i am glad...

or would you play tfc when brown team fought against the gray team ;)?!
ova
-alien

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Freitag, den 13.April 2001 um 01:57:50  
LaraSoft     
hm.. jo ... interessant =)

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Freitag, den 13.April 2001 um 20:44:15  
M.i.K     
seh ich auch so lara :þ

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Sonntag, den 22.April 2001 um 06:23:09  
exe  
test

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Sonntag, den 22.April 2001 um 06:36:33  
test  
test

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Dienstag, den 24.April 2001 um 02:00:19  
br0etchen  
failed :D

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Dienstag, den 22.Mai 2001 um 18:22:40  
[G-A-S]RubbelDieK@tz     
Also ich kann dazu nur sagen,das wir in der uktfcl auch so manches mal Lange Gesichter machen und uns ansehen müssen was dort für ein Schiss zusammengespielt wird.Aber ich habe herausgefunden,das die "Deutsche" Art TFC zu Spielen net die Einzige ist,und so Lame die anderen Spielarten auch sind,man muss sich damit "Leider" abfinden=)

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Dienstag, den 22.Mai 2001 um 18:23:17  
[G-A-S]RubbelDieK@tz     
Also ich kann dazu nur sagen,das wir in der uktfcl auch so manches mal Lange Gesichter machen und uns ansehen müssen was dort für ein Schiss zusammengespielt wird.Aber ich habe herausgefunden,das die "Deutsche" Art TFC zu Spielen net die Einzige ist,und so Lame die anderen Spielarten auch sind,man muss sich damit "Leider" abfinden=)

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